Movies – 'Lions for Lambs' is a perfect example of how the entertainment business is using movies to push their political agenda on the audiences of the world. The screen writer (whose name escapes me) obviously has some personal views of the war on terror and is trying to push those ideas on to the people watching.
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Can We Say Political Agenda coming from the Arthur of this article?
"Can We Say Political Agenda coming from the Arthur of this article?">>>
I'd say unless a person has seen the movie to form a valid opinion, & not borrow it from someone else, no. "We" can't say it's a political agenda with honesty.
It's ok. It'll bomb at the box office like any propaganda film.
Wow. There is so much tin-foil hat business in your post to even warrant a response. Tape yourself up in your house. Don't watch anything but Fox and Bush speeches and die a happy ignoramus.
I have never said I am a pal of Rosie O'Donnell. I don't know her.
And I am not a paid shill. I speak my mind. And, unlike yourself, I haven't rented my mind out to a madman.
Maybe you haven't rented it out, but it's plain that you haven't learned to use it to think with. But, that's OK
since learning to parrot is the first step to doing things
on your own.
Jordan said: "I'd say unless a person has seen the movie to form a valid opinion...no. "We" can't say it's a political agenda with honesty."
I respectfully disagree. Reading the article, you get the distinct impression that this reviewer hasn't even seen the film. He can't recall the screenwriter, he thinks Robert Redford simply acted in the film, and he doesn't mention one single event that occurs in the film, not one plot point, not one quote.
He says, "(The actors) did a great job acting out their characters...so when we say the movie was well â;¦crap we aren't blaming that on them. We're gonna have to go with whoever came up with the storyline and blame it on him."
He obviously doesn''t even know that Redford directed the film, and is as responsible for the "storyline" of the film as anyone.
If you're going to review a film, try and watch the film first, otherwise, leave it for someone with an open mind.
Prime case of the pot calling the kettle black there grandpawh.
Actually, I group movies into two categories: those I go to and know I will be thoroughly entertained by (be it comedy, action, drama, etc) and maybe learn something, or movies I go to knowing I will learn something.
Granted, in the second category, I see far fewer films, maybe 2 or 3 a year. One this year was An Inconvenient Truth, which I did learn a little, and the other, which the title escapes me, was about the build-up of the military establishment, with an opening quote by Eisenhower on how we should be wary of this buildup. This one I learned a lot more from.
Nothing wrong with seeing movies that offer an opinion different from yours...it's good to learn, even if it does criticize the country we live in. Progress and changes are made by critical examination, even if it hurts the ego, not by leaving things alone and following the status quo.
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, very funny. Tin foil hat, Ha, Ha, Ha,
bawhahahahahahahahahahahaha ;-p I needed that today.
Hollywood doesn't have to try to make America look bad. The Neocons have done a fine job of that all by themselves.
Try reading the book that OBL recommended, Rogue State written by an American, and you surely can't be proud of our foreign policy... which surely hasn't improved under Dumya. All the stuff in the book was published and a lot of it verified by recently released, CIA formerly classified material. What happened to great old American honesty to face the facts, make amends and move on to a better world with better foreign policy?
No sh*t.
Funny how Neo's like ti blame hollywood for this dumb*ss bush.
Gee, Second, if Dumya can dominate prime time anytime he wants with his lies abd deceptions... let the movie business offer some counterpoint and thought provoking truth!
wait a minute now.
you're sounding too much like a person with freedom of speech and thought.
please report to Fox for Re-Training procedures
secondchance: "Hollywood is trying their best to make America look as bad as they can in the eyes of the world."
Oh no, there is no need for that. President Bush has been doing an excellent job of that for years.
I distinctly remember Jerry, the false prophet, claim that the US deserved 9_11 and that it was a punishment from God, I could even swear that Pat Robertson made similar claims.
I dunno, Syriana did pretty good
ROTFLMAO. Yeah, all "propaganda" films bomb. You can prove this. Got it...
Post WWII propaganda films were very popular with the American public...American war heroes singled handedly defeating the evil nazi armies in Europe and the evil Japanese in the Pacific...It is nothing new in Hollywood.
Making anti-war films during a war IS new and it's disgusting.
Not if the majority of Americans are against the war, what's disgusting is the president ignoring the will of the people for almost four years, that's disgusting and unforgivable.
Hehe...This reminds me of how the FIX News viewersheep were all clucking excitedly amongst themselves last year after a substitute teacher came up with the admittedly less than brilliant idea to show scenes from the movie Brokeback Mountain to a classroom of junior high school kids. What a scream it was to see and hear homophobic neocon radio and television hosts across America squirming and feining outrage (over a movie they clearly hadn't seen and couldn't know has no sexually explicit scenes) as they defended one moronic parent's decision to sue (on behalf of his "traumatized" 12 y/o daughter) the school system to the tune of half a million dollars. Well, dammit thar's ho-mo-SEXshules in the film. It MUST be bad. LOL
ok! Who's Arthur?
Doh, I thunk that was Encore.... That well known Frenchman who emulated Oliver Twist and wanted more.....
"Who's Arthur?"
I liked that movie....Dudley Moore, right?
JOEY EVANS
ok! Who's Arthur?
The invisible Killer Rabbit?
FLOP AT THE BOX OFFICE...... so far looks like people have seen enough flim clips and enough commentary from Redford to NOT want to pay their hard earned money to see this movie.
Actually, I want to thank tonks21 for calling my attention to this movie. I might have missed it otherwise.
Actually, I want to thank tonks21 for calling my attention to this movie. I might have missed it otherwise.
How? This movie runs more adds on TV than any movie I can recall
In all honesty I have never seen one.
Not EVERYBODY watches TV.
I have never owned one in my life; have occasionally lived somewere where there was one and I've watched them in motels..
Yeah..
I could have done without his/her commentary.
Especially:
"none of us go to the movies to watch something that drips with sarcasm and can start up a heated debate in under 60 seconds. We go to the movies to forget about the horrors and frustration of the world around us."
NONE of us - well I think different.
Of course "dripping sarcasm" is prety ugly but to be honest I wouldn't probably agree with him/her.
Its also sheer laziness to say "The screen-writer, whose name escapes me" when a click of a mouse on a google search will provide the info.
If its not worth that modest effort its not worth mentioning.
Matthew Michael Carnahan - that took 5 seconds.
You might be right but If it tanks it'll be because Americans are sick to death of this war, this President, and this administration.
LOL Really? Is that why "political agenda" films like Brokeback Mountain and documentaries from Michael Moore and Al Gore rake in record millions at the box office and win awards? Because "EVERYONE" knows the left wing's political agenda? I think reality would suggest the exact opposite of the tripe you post. You have no evidence whatsoever to support what you say. NONE. That renders your opinions totally WORTHLESS. Without value. Garbage. Thanks.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Brokeback was not that big a success, People want distractions from real problems and the nations woes are not going to cut it. Yes the three movies you mentioned do make some money but are hardly worthy or records. What is interesting is how war films don't even show up on the top fifty earning list. I guess people killing each other in large numbers doesn't sell, maybe there is hope for us after all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-gr...
"Sorry to burst your bubble but Brokeback was not that big a success"
My bubble is just fine, thanks. It's your definition of success that needs some work. Box office receipts alone only tell us how often a movie has been seen. They don't tell us how much a movie earned or say anything about the quality of the film.
Your right about box office receipts only telling us so much about a movie, but your claim about it bringing in record millions is not true. Movies that do really good at the box office generally don't bring awards for their actors, writers, and others who help make them, it's a catch 22. People are free to like whatever movie they want, thats why there are so many different ones out there, I personally have never seen Brokeback Mountain.
"but your claim about it bringing in record millions is not true."
Ok...We're skipping around here. I said BBM and films by Michael Moore and Al Gore all earned record millions at the box office. You seized on BBM only (claiming it "was not that big a success") and I said that your definition of success is narrow. Then you go back to claiming that BBM didn't earn record millions. On what you're basing this, I have no idea.
Brokeback Mountain cost 14 million dollars to make, has earned $180m dollars worldwide so far, it had the highest per theater average take for a live action movie on record and it garnered numerous critical awards. If you wanna argue that that's "not that big a success" have at it.
I'm not picking a fight with you just that Brokeback or the other two documentaries were hardly a box office smash in the history of movies, 180 million for BBM is hardly a record. Once again look at the top fifty of all time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-gr...
"I'm not picking a fight with you just that Brokeback or the other two documentaries were hardly a box office smash in the history of movies"
Yeah...I see the problem. You've decided that the only significant box office record is box office receipts. Michael Moore has the three of the top 5 highest grossing DOCUMENTARIES in history. Those movies broke records and the fact that his has several movies in the top 12 highest grossing DOCUMENTARIES is another record. I pointed out how BBM made record millions already. You're defining success too narrowly.
But earnings are the true measure of success, it's unbiased and free from political persuasion. None of the awards can make the same claim, how often have people been left scratching their heads wondering how did they win an Oscar.
Documentaries are a gendre movie at best and can't compete with mainstream movies for earnings.
"But earnings are the true measure of success, it's unbiased and free from political persuasion."
Yes...They're a true measure of *financial* success. And If you mean dollar amounts are unambiguous, I basically agree. However, if you're suggesting that box office numbers aren't influenced by politics, then I would disagree.
You're welcome. When I encounter people who are starved for attention or some sort of validation, I try to oblige as generously as I can. Anytime. ;-p
So you're K with the politcal "agenda" of Republicans and "neocons"...?
So no one is allowed to have a different point of view?
Conservatives always like to call themselves "real" Americans...
Sounds more like communism to me....welcome to north korea or china....
So far, it sounds like a lotta wishful thinking from chickenhawk neocons.
But I thought neocons automatically hated any product of Hollywood (besides Ronald Reagan) anyway.
Hey Red
What's a flim? Did you mean film, as in film clip? I think so. If so, I fully agree with you on that comment
dexlex, or should I say dyslex?
You and the "arthur" ought to get together. "Than" you would be very happy reading each other's drivel.
No wonder you support Bush and his stupid war. You are relatives, probably. You share the mutation contained in the bad grammar gene.
I wish I could sink this idiotic post ten times.
Oh well, I will make a point of seeing the film.