Jesus Camp - the movie »
Posted by: elll 1 year, 3 months ago258 CommentsReflectReport this Story
"Extreme liberals who look at this should be quaking in their boots," declares Pastor Becky Fischer with jovial satisfaction in the riveting documentary "Jesus Camp," the second film by the documentary team of Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady.
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kctrixter1 year, 3 months ago
Nope I don't find this any scarier then KKK camp.
As I write this, I am watching "I Robot". I don't think it helps make Jesus camp any less scary.
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kctrixter1 year, 3 months ago
No. (well not that I know of) After seeing a special on Jesus camp a while back it sacred me, much like I would imagine a little kid KKK camp would. I have seen kids brought up by "those ignorant clowns " (as you so aptly put it) on TV, and that was what went through my mind when I said that.
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mdual1 year, 3 months ago
So true. I saw some really likeable people in this movie. Unfortunately some are misguided (the disregard for science in general bothers me with this extreme brach of Christians). However, no racism or racist remarks so why the comparison to KKK? Don't understand that. The kids for the most part are some of the most articulate and genuine I've seen in a long time. Good and Bad in everything - this movie proves it.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 3 months ago
mdual-yeah Ted Haggard was there in the movie too- top of the list as GOOD,for all those people. The comparison is not focused on being a racist, but being a fanatic about sonmething, and brainwashing children. and if you don't think for one second those people aren't teaching intolerance for anyone who is not a believer like they are, you are mistaken.
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Charlson1 year, 3 months ago
"There are two types of people in the world - People who love Jesus and those who don't." Sounds very similar to Bush's polarization of America.
There are many articulate and genuine hatemongers also. You can wrap a terrible idea with a pretty covering but it's still bad.
They want to create an army of Christian children to combat the Muslum threat. What Muslim threat? The threat is Terrorism not Muslims. Sure many terrorist are Muslims but many Christians were in the KKK. You don't paint all Christians as neo-nazis because of a few idiots who profess to be Christians.
Brain washing in any form is wrong. Period.
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ETproductions1 year, 3 months ago
From the trailer, "This means war! This means war! Are you a part of it or not?"
I have no problem with someone believing. I have no problem with them teaching their kids to believe. I have a BIG problem with them declaring war on people who don't share their beliefs.
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kctrixter1 year, 3 months ago
I guess I don't believe that a child of 5, who knows nothing of the world except what his parents tell him, can truly have a sincere religious experience that doesn't involve brain-washing. I won't totally discount the possibility, but I don't believe that Jesus Camp is where that would happen.
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DeadHead131 year, 3 months ago
I have no problem with someone believing. I have a problem with someone: teaching it to his/her kids, voting by it, telling the neighbors, telling me, and asking me to respect it.
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lvrofwolves1 year, 3 months ago
exactly ETproductions that why it was so disturbing to me. If the exact same camp was over in middle east and it was for Allah (sp?) we'd all be like OMG! the makings of little terrorists. Jesus warriors
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MntnWllm1 year, 3 months ago
I agree the claim can be made that American Christian Bombers aren't suicide types. So Far. The sort of extremist indoctrination exhibited by those in this film might very well lead to an American generation who think nothing is more holy than to die for their religious cause. The camp leaders do make the comparison, repeatedly, to the muslims training thier children to do whatever is needed. They kinda see that sort of behavior as a benchmark, seems to me.
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mdual1 year, 3 months ago
This whole thread perfectly illustrates why religion and politics shouldn't mix.
The only law on religion the U.S. should have is that you're free to practice your own religion (barring murdering in your religion's name - gotta add that in these days) and that's it.
Muslims can't seperate religion and politics that's why the state of their nations is what it is.
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toph19731 year, 3 months ago
Who was the "christian" that said the Dali Lama is going to hell? I don't believe in heaven or hell, any diety or anything that religion "teaches" The Dali is a good man, and if this supposed christian god lets people that lead unchristian lives in and leaves out someone like the Dali out because he doesn't believe in the same god? What happens if all the christians are wrong and what ever diety the Dali Worships in is the correct one.
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ciera-marie1 year, 3 months ago
I agree with you ET. I saw the movie when it was in theaters last fall. I recommended to everyone including friends of mine who are Evangelical Christian. I have known and been part of some Evangelical Churches that were not like the ones in the movie and one that was. The one that was, would not let kids be part of church services like that. They wanted the kids to be kids.
The movie is worth it to see Ted Haggard. He looks like a fox or an alligator. He looked scary. The way he treated one of the kids who wants to be a pastor was appalling as well. He dismissed him.
The fact that they are declaring war on not just muslims but other Christians is scary to me as well. At the end of the movie one of the girls while they are in DC goes up to a group of African American men and she wants to convert them. They tell her they are already believers. As she is walking away she declares they must be Muslim because she wouldn't let them preach to them.
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BronxBomber1 year, 3 months ago
Isn't this how the nazi movement got started over in europe back in the last century back in the '30's?
Just another potential case of history repeating itself.
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contrast1 year, 3 months ago
actually bronx Hitler added Christians to his list later on. thats why is an antichrist one of the reasons anyway.
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marlenebomer1 year, 3 months ago
I can, sweetie!
I call fanatics like Falwell, Robertson, ad nauseum the "religious reicht" for a reason -- they use the exact same tactics the National Socialists used in their mad lust for power:
Demonization of a minority: for the Nazis it was people they deemed sub-human (mentally ill, Gypsies, as well as the Jews). For the American Taliban it's gays and lesbians.
Fearmongering: for the Nazis they blamed the Jews for Germany's economic woes. For the AT they once again blame gays and lesbians for the decline of marriage, the decline of culture, ad infinitum.
Wide use of propaganda: For the Nazis, they had their own media empire to spread their words of hate and intolerance towards others. For the American Taliban, they also use the same use of a media empire. If you look at Fritz Hippler's "The Eternal Jew" and James Dobson's "Gay Rights, Special Rights", you'll see many similarities.
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johnkamis641 year, 3 months ago
I love how the PolitiGono infected BushBitches can just float away on thier delusions, ignoring all facts as they attempt
to infect the innocent. These politis/uts will draw on any source- Nazi, KKK,John Birch, Josef Stalin to try to spread thier toxins.
However, if you just look up the FACTS, you are immune to this nasty infection that CANNOT be cured with a quick shot!!!
PEACE!!!
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